AME: Conquering the Blank Page

[00:00:01] This is a production of The Very Dental Podcast Network.

[00:00:10] Alan Mead is a dentist with too much time on his hands and too much recording equipment

[00:00:15] in his basement. Armed with an obsession to bring entertaining and informative content

[00:00:19] to the dental world in a way that's never been done before, I give you the Alan Mead

[00:00:26] Experience. Well, hello and welcome to another episode of The Alan Mead Experience. I'm your

[00:00:34] host, Dr. Alan Mead. I'm a dentist, a podcaster, and an ice scraper. My family woke up this morning

[00:00:43] with, it was an ice storm, which was a little crazy because we were at a concert last night.

[00:00:47] Sean was playing in a concert that was going to go kind of late and it was like 40 minutes

[00:00:51] from home and it was supposed to ice storm. Well, it did not, it was not raining or snowing

[00:00:59] when we drove home, but when we woke up this morning, everything was covered with ice. So

[00:01:03] that was a little exciting. We didn't go anywhere for a while and it did actually get above freezing,

[00:01:09] so the ice did not stay. So that's good. But we had to scrape a whole bunch of stuff. Feeding

[00:01:14] horses in an ice storm is pretty exciting too. So I chose to ride a fat bike around the farm to feed

[00:01:22] instead of trying to drive a vehicle. I figured I was, and I was. I only bailed off the bike once.

[00:01:29] It wasn't too bad. And when we fed this afternoon, the ice had pretty much melted. So it was just kind

[00:01:35] of a sloppy mess because it's like, it's almost 40 degrees now. So I was an ice scraper. I am not

[00:01:41] an ice scraper anymore. You guys, I have a really good topic to cover. I hope that what I talk about

[00:01:49] is helpful for you because it has literally changed my life for the better. So I've talked about it on

[00:01:57] the show multiple times in the last couple months. We talked with Michael Anderson from Wondrist about it

[00:02:03] a lot, actually. But the idea of using AI. Okay. So, I mean, like it was a few years ago that chat GPT

[00:02:10] came on the scene, you know, and AI and the kind of tools that regular people can use for AI have been

[00:02:18] around for a little while. I really have not messed with them much until just recently. I'm not, I'm not

[00:02:24] afraid of AI in the same way that a lot of the big tech people talk about, but I'm also, because I find

[00:02:29] the technology generally doesn't work very well for us. Like I still can't type on my phone without

[00:02:34] having almost constant mistakes. And, and, you know, my Bluetooth is constantly disconnecting from

[00:02:42] my headphones or my car, all the dumb stuff that happens. Like, like the fact that technology

[00:02:47] is so amazing, but yet a lot of times just doesn't work very well. That makes me think AI is not going

[00:02:52] to take over the world and murder us. I don't know. I could be wrong. Hopefully if I am,

[00:02:59] it will be quick and painless. I can just say that much, but in any case, I finally have kind of leaned

[00:03:04] into using AI and it was all about the concept of AI for creative types for like, I mean, I do,

[00:03:12] I do a lot of podcasts, obviously. I edit a lot of content on a regular basis. And one of the things

[00:03:18] that, that has always been a strong, honestly, one of the struggles, one of the things that have made,

[00:03:22] made me go, I don't know that I want to keep doing this is just how much it sucks to write up show

[00:03:28] notes. And I know that I'm sure a lot of you don't really read the show notes and that's fine. I don't,

[00:03:33] I don't feel bad if you don't, but I feel like for the people that do and want to have some

[00:03:38] information about the show, I feel like I kind of owe it to you. So I used to have to do a lot more

[00:03:43] work. And frankly, I don't think that, I don't think the work was as good then as it is now. I feel

[00:03:49] like using AI to help with that has been amazing. So basically the creative process for me, whether

[00:03:56] we're talking about creating and editing and, and, you know, writing up a podcast versus even just an

[00:04:02] email or, or, or man, I mean, like I, I use Google Gemini, which is one of several, you know, and I have a paid

[00:04:12] subscription to this and my understanding is you, if you pay for it, you, it works better. It does.

[00:04:16] And I will say it is, it is amazing. But the thing that I have noticed the most is that when you have

[00:04:23] a great idea of something creative to do, whether it is a, oh, a blog post for, let's say your,

[00:04:29] your office website or an email that you have to write that, you know, it has to be a little bit

[00:04:35] more substantive than the regular, you know, short, quick email or God, you know, I guess,

[00:04:42] you know, if you're writing some kind of a paper or an article or something for someone, or like I said,

[00:04:46] or podcasting, a lot of times the battle for me is the battle with the empty page. It's a matter of

[00:04:54] getting started. Once you can get started and you have, you have some substance to work with,

[00:04:59] it all becomes a lot easier. And so I feel like AI is a really good way to,

[00:05:07] basically to conquer the blank page that's sitting in front of you. So I got, I got a whole bunch of

[00:05:12] ideas. Basically you overcome creative inertia when, when you, you have the idea, but you've got

[00:05:18] to get something down on paper. And that's the hard part. AI is a really good tool for this. It

[00:05:24] doesn't mean that AI is, it doesn't mean that you're just copying and pasting whatever the AI wrote

[00:05:29] because frankly, it won't be as good as what you refine out of it, but it's a really good way to

[00:05:36] get some ideas rolling in, in, in, in a, like I said, get something down on paper that you can edit. So

[00:05:42] anyhow, the, the number one reason to do it is to, to deal with the tedious stuff, the stuff that you

[00:05:48] have to do, but you don't love doing the classic example is show notes. You know, I've, I've edited a

[00:05:53] really good sounding podcast. I love the guest. I love the conversation. And then I have to go back and

[00:05:58] kind of figure out what was important. What do I write to this thing? So what I have been doing,

[00:06:03] I got to say, I use, I use multiple workflows and you guys may think this is boring as heck,

[00:06:09] but so what, what happens, what I've been doing now for the last couple months with the podcast,

[00:06:14] and I think they are better edited and the show notes are much better now than they used to be.

[00:06:19] I will edit the sound, the audio version completely. So I will make sure I optimize the sound as best I

[00:06:26] can. I make sure that we, you know, we don't have any big gaps. We don't have any, sometimes when

[00:06:32] you're recording, there's a, there's something you have to, you have to mess with it, whatever.

[00:06:35] I make sure all the major sound stuff is out and then I optimize the sound. And then I, I, I work in

[00:06:41] bigger files. And then by the time I'm all said and done, it's a smaller file. So in the smaller file

[00:06:47] is the file that I'm going to upload as the file that you get to your, your phone. If you're listening

[00:06:51] on a phone, usually back in the day, I would actually kind of listen to it and then create

[00:06:59] my show notes and my outline while I'm listening to it. And then I would bounce the episode. You

[00:07:06] know, I'd finish editing the episode part and turn it into the MP3 after I had basically written up the

[00:07:11] show notes because I'm, I got to do the show notes. I'm going to have to listen to it completely start

[00:07:16] to finish again to remember it. Cause a lot of times it's one thing if I'm recording a podcast

[00:07:21] with a guest, let's say, or even a monologue like this, if I'm doing it and I'm putting the

[00:07:27] episode out right away, show notes wouldn't be quite so hard cause it's real fresh in your mind.

[00:07:31] But to be honest, a lot of times I'm recording an, uh, like a, an interview with someone and it's

[00:07:36] weeks later or more that I'm editing it. So the reality is, is the conversation I I'll think to

[00:07:43] myself is a great conversation, but it was, it's not that fresh in my mind. So I have to re-listen

[00:07:48] to it to be able to create the show notes. What I have been doing has been, been editing for sound.

[00:07:53] And then I use a pro program called Descript, which is kind of ingenious. It actually right now,

[00:07:59] uh, Google Gemini can't do this. And I don't think chat GPT can either where I don't think you

[00:08:05] can upload an MP3 file to it, where it reads the MP3 file Descript can Descript will grab the MP3 file,

[00:08:12] I guess, listen to it in whatever way, uh, um, an AI can listen to an MP3 file. It creates a

[00:08:18] transcript from there. So I can see the transcript and Descript is really cool because if I wanted

[00:08:22] to, I don't do this, but if I wanted to, you can actually edit the transcript. Like you can

[00:08:27] delete words and stuff like that. And it will delete that word in the actual podcast, right? So

[00:08:34] if you want to, you can take out all the ums, you can take out all the uhs, you can do all that

[00:08:39] stuff using this transcript thing. It's, it's amazing. Like literally it will just delete the

[00:08:43] word. It's crazy how it can do that. So it literally creates a new audio file if you want

[00:08:47] it to. Uh, I generally don't do that, but I could, I mean, I could get to a point, but more than that,

[00:08:52] then it has a whole bunch of options with its AI where you can say, okay, create show notes from

[00:08:57] this transcript and it'll create a decent show note from the transcript. And one of the things that I

[00:09:01] really like about it, and if you've noticed it is that it will also put times like, like episode,

[00:09:07] like times in the episode, you know, 15 minutes in, we talked about this. It gives kind of a basic

[00:09:12] outline for people who might want to fast forward to what we're talking about. I feel like a lot of

[00:09:17] podcasts do that. I think it's a really valuable thing. And this Descript is really good at doing

[00:09:21] that. Now, what I've started doing in the last couple of weeks is I take that transcript that

[00:09:26] Descript generated, I cut and paste and I put that into Google Gemini because Google Gemini,

[00:09:32] I think it's better. I think it's better. It's a better AI for creating outlines and stuff like

[00:09:36] that. So I then take that and I create my show note from Google Gemini and it's, it's really good.

[00:09:42] So what's cool about this is it, I don't have to remember the conversation completely because it,

[00:09:48] the Descript in Google Gemini can do it for me and creates a nice note from that. I go back and I say,

[00:09:52] okay, that's right. I can, I can add or touch up or, or, or streamline the notes, but it,

[00:09:57] it's just great. And it takes literally the, the worst part about editing and makes it better.

[00:10:03] And this is why there's a lot of people that pay other people to edit their stuff,

[00:10:06] which is fine. I got no problem with that. I've never done that. I I'm either a control freak or

[00:10:10] I don't want to spend the money or whatever. Cause I have done that. I tried for a little while and

[00:10:14] found that people who aren't dental people don't really know what's good dental content. So they

[00:10:20] don't know what to edit out or leave in or whatever. So it's, I mean, I don't know if there's,

[00:10:24] we don't edit a ton of stuff out as we're, as, as I'm creating the stuff, but I just feel like if

[00:10:29] it's not a dental person who can appreciate the conversation for the content that probably they

[00:10:35] shouldn't be the editor, that's just me. I know a lot of other podcasts, they, they just pass on the

[00:10:40] recordings to be edited and released and all that stuff. That's great. I've just never done that.

[00:10:44] But this, this using AI, particularly Descript in, in Google Gemini has been just next level. It's

[00:10:52] been so great. And I feel like the output, my output is significantly better than it used to be.

[00:10:57] And it's much less of a pain to do. It's a, honestly, it's just, it's just money well spent.

[00:11:03] Let's just say that I just, and I look at this as, as a, that is my primary, excuse me, creative

[00:11:09] output in my life. It's a podcast, right? I used to write blogs and this would be very,

[00:11:14] very useful if you're writing a lot of articles or blogs as well. But this is for, for me, my main,

[00:11:20] my main output is, is podcast production, but it just saves so much time. And frankly,

[00:11:27] makes the product better. So I'm looking at it going, this is great. So then the next question

[00:11:31] I have is like, so what else are we going to use this for? Like this, this is a, to me,

[00:11:36] a new technology. And I don't, I think it's, it's to everyone. I mean, shoot chat GPT was only

[00:11:42] available for regular people not that long ago. So it's still relatively new. I'm thinking to myself,

[00:11:49] we have to create a lot of content as, as human beings and as dentists and all this stuff. Like,

[00:11:55] what else are they going to do? So, I mean, the podcast is, is a natural one for me, but then

[00:11:59] beyond podcasting, there's so much, so many good things here. Well, okay. So there's another part

[00:12:04] of podcasting. It isn't the editing and that, that, but a lot of times I will, uh, I will help

[00:12:10] generate an outline of, of not interview questions, but maybe potential topics. Sometimes depending on

[00:12:18] the person I'm talking to, particularly if it's someone I don't know real well, it's kind of hard

[00:12:23] sometimes to come up with, with an outline of what we're going to talk about. A lot of times I'll

[00:12:28] get people on because I want to talk about something specific with them, which is great. But even at

[00:12:32] that, I still find myself just putting in a prompt about who the person I'm, I'm interviewing or

[00:12:40] talking with is, you know, what, what I would like to talk to them about what some things there may be

[00:12:45] known for things that people would recognize them for. And then I say, Hey, help me come up with

[00:12:50] maybe some topics or questions. And, and it is shocking how Gemini can come up with a really good

[00:12:56] outline of potential topics. It isn't that I never really just throw a list of questions at people.

[00:13:02] I always find that kind of annoying, but it's, it's like, if I've got a jumping off point that we can

[00:13:06] talk about, it makes for such a, such a, a nice conversation to have lots of places to go. And as

[00:13:11] you guys know, I usually am running out of time with my people. I don't, I don't run out of things to

[00:13:16] talk about ever, but it's nice to have that fallback, especially on people I don't know very

[00:13:21] well. So that has been really good too. So that is podcast based, but it's not really editing as

[00:13:25] much as the actual creative part. All this stuff is just like, it's just someone to lean on. It's,

[00:13:32] it's, it's funny to think of an AI, but it's like literally the way I use it, you almost are talking

[00:13:37] to it. Like, like Tony Stark talking to his computer Jarvis, you know, he's asked, you literally

[00:13:43] can kind of talk to Gemini in that way. And, and Gemini sort of talks back to you. It's pretty

[00:13:48] wild. If you haven't tried it, uh, there is a free version of all these Gemini and chat GPT.

[00:13:53] It's really, it's shockingly good. It's shockingly like, and it is, it continues to get better and

[00:13:59] more like a, basically a digital assistant. It's pretty wild. So I got another one. This was really

[00:14:05] cool. So I've been helping Sean, my oldest study for astronomy now for the last, well, I mean,

[00:14:11] actually it was, it was, uh, spring of last year. He had the first, the first semester of it. And

[00:14:17] then this, you know, this fall semester, he's had the second semester of it. And, and basically it's

[00:14:23] an online course. The difference between last year and this year is that last year he actually had an

[00:14:29] hour of the day set aside for this online class. It was like a study hall essentially. And he would go

[00:14:35] in and he would use his Chromebook and he would be able to work on stuff that way. I helped him with

[00:14:39] stuff, but he did a lot. He had an hour of the day that was set aside this year. He does not have

[00:14:43] that. He actually is taking the class and it's completely outside of all of his hours during

[00:14:48] the class, which is kind of wild considering, I mean, we got enough to do honestly. So, so we've,

[00:14:54] I have started using AI in a lot of ways to help him study. So there's what happens is the,

[00:15:02] the way that the class is offered is they give you a text. It's like four, four or five chapters of

[00:15:09] the topic, you know, and, and, you know, for instance, oh, there's his, the history of astronomy.

[00:15:13] And then there's one, you know, basically the inner planets of the solar system. And then the outer,

[00:15:18] you know, then, you know, Jupiter and Saturn, it goes chapter by chapter and there's texts. And,

[00:15:22] and so you read all the texts and then you answer critical thinking questions. And then there's like

[00:15:27] projects, one prod, you know, like there's a lab and then there's a, an activity and then there's

[00:15:33] flashcards and a quiz. And it does this, there, you know, there were eight, eight sections, eight

[00:15:37] units for the second part of the class. And so we just, we just finished it recently. It's a lot of

[00:15:42] work. It's a ton of work. And it's even more work when you don't have an hour of class. So to help

[00:15:49] him study for the quizzes in, in, in like the midterm and stuff, what I, what I was able to, I literally

[00:15:54] am able to just kind of load the text that he has, the, the, the text they're working off of right

[00:15:59] into Google Gemini and say, okay, uh, create a detailed outline study guide from this text.

[00:16:08] And so we would get, I gave that to show him he's able to study. And then this is even better

[00:16:12] create a 40 question, multiple choice, true and false test, asking questions about this content

[00:16:19] and then generate a separate key answer key. So I could literally, before he took the quizzes or

[00:16:25] the midterm or anything like that, and we'll do this, he's got the final coming up this week.

[00:16:29] We'll do the same thing because it works so great. It's so like, I mean, I used to study with him by

[00:16:34] just going over notes and sort of asking, you know, trying to generate a question for a note. This,

[00:16:39] this does what I used to do so much better and it is really effective. I don't look at that as

[00:16:45] cheating as much as just using some tools to help, help you generate. Like if I'd had this in dental

[00:16:51] school, oh my God. Now, and I'm going to talk a little bit about some of the disadvantages,

[00:16:55] because clearly there's, there's the, the motivation is a little scary in this stuff. It's we'll see,

[00:17:01] but, but that's, I've been able to do a lot of stuff with this. It's been just, I really like it.

[00:17:07] Okay. So helping my kids study, helping me put the podcast together has been great, but there's,

[00:17:12] there's obviously other things that you can use it for. One of the, one of the best things when you

[00:17:16] have an email that you have to write, that's more than just a, you know, emailing a friend or your

[00:17:21] mom or whatever, you know, if you're, if you're emailing a company or a business or, or you can,

[00:17:28] you can, it helps you generate a really, a much better email. Like actually what I do lately for,

[00:17:34] for companies or people I'm working with that I want to come off as really professional. I'll write

[00:17:38] an email, like it, like a, like a skeleton outline of the email. And I'll just say, make this better.

[00:17:45] This is, this is what I want to cover. I want to get these points across, make this better. And boy,

[00:17:49] it does. It really, what's, what's amazing about the AI with this kind of stuff too, is it doesn't

[00:17:54] generate more text. It actually tends to slim down what you've written, just kind of getting to the

[00:18:00] points better, which is sometimes a real struggle for me. A lot of times I try and use a lot of words

[00:18:04] when a few words would, would be better. I just am impressed beyond belief. And so

[00:18:14] one of the things you have to realize when you're using AI is that the prompt that you give the AI.

[00:18:20] So in other words, what you tell it to do, whether, okay, for instance, a prompt, if I'm,

[00:18:25] if I'm coming up with a, if I'm coming up with a study guide for Sean, the prompt that I give it is,

[00:18:30] I give it literally a cut and paste of the text that, that is being tested on. So I'm giving it a

[00:18:37] bunch of good information right there. And then I ask it to do something very specific. Please create

[00:18:41] a 40 question, multiple choice, true, false test, practice test, uh, and then, and create a separate,

[00:18:50] you know, answer key that we can use to correct it. And, you know, I give it very specific instructions

[00:18:55] in a very, in the, so the prompt is very specific. And so it, it does very well with the specific

[00:19:00] stuff. I find that it gives me the stuff I get from AI is just way worse when I'm not that specific

[00:19:07] about it. When, when I'm sort of like wide open, it generates stuff, but it just didn't,

[00:19:12] it doesn't generate the quality of the stuff that you would want. So it is, it's definitely a garbage in

[00:19:17] garbage out kind of thing. Now, interestingly, not a problem with podcasts because I'm literally

[00:19:24] handing descript, which is the, the, the thing I'm using to create a transcript. I just gave it

[00:19:31] the whole podcast. So it's getting all that information. The cool thing is it can, it can

[00:19:35] essentially listen to it and create the transcript. So it's getting really good information from me

[00:19:39] on that one. Thus, it can come up with a very specific and good, uh, you know, show notes or

[00:19:45] whatever. It's just, so it really is important. The kind of prompt that you give the AI to get the,

[00:19:51] to get the output that you're looking for. So, and I mean, it takes some working with it to figure

[00:19:57] out it. And I have to say, sometimes when I'm sloppy with my prompts, I don't, I don't get in a

[00:20:00] super impressive product out of it, but when I'm really good with the prompts, it's, it's shockingly

[00:20:05] good. So, and I've had a few emails that I've just been so grateful to have this because man,

[00:20:11] sometimes emails are a real slog to write is, you know, in, in, man, it's been really good.

[00:20:16] It's been really good for that. And then basically the last thing that I'm coming to

[00:20:21] realize, and I'm, I'm going to try and have some people on the show, uh, that are using this already,

[00:20:29] but generating a chart note, generating your, your written documentation for a patient interaction

[00:20:37] is you won't even believe how good it is at doing this stuff. First off, there are,

[00:20:41] there are apps that you literally, you know, uh, my understanding is you can record it,

[00:20:46] you have a phone in your pocket or you have some kind of recording device in the operatory and you

[00:20:50] just record the audio of the entire interaction. Now, I don't know if that means you're yelling out,

[00:20:56] you know, tooth surfaces and, you know, number of carpules used or what, I don't know if you're

[00:21:00] doing that, but even if that's the case, that wouldn't be so bad, especially if you knew you're

[00:21:04] going to have this unbelievably good chart note that you don't have to generate yourself.

[00:21:08] But I have actually been using in Google Gemini, it's funny. Gemini says,

[00:21:12] we can't do to ethics. We can't generate this for you, but we can give you an example of something

[00:21:18] that would, that would be generated. And then it generates for you. It's kind of funny. So like

[00:21:22] I'll put in, um, I'll put in kind of some of the things that happen in the, you know,

[00:21:27] the patient presents for a broken number 14 for a crown. Uh, you know, I used one carpule of,

[00:21:33] I sort of put the basics in for my prompt and then say, Hey, can you generate, and it'll generate a

[00:21:38] really good soap based note. Uh, this is Google Gemini. So this is just a general, general purpose.

[00:21:46] Uh, AI does a pretty great job. So I'm thinking to myself, that's the cool thing. There's a lot of

[00:21:52] these very, they take this technology and they're able to make it very specific. For instance, the

[00:21:57] script thing is kind of for content creators, you know, for, for a podcast notes or something like

[00:22:02] that. Uh, they have apps for charting for, for creating, you know, chart notes and they,

[00:22:10] they are very specific to that. And so they do that as a very good job. I, so I'm going to have some

[00:22:15] people on to talk about that. Cause I do, I honestly think that is probably, that's probably the

[00:22:19] future. And, and having used some AI for a while, uh, I do think that we're crazy not to, we're crazy

[00:22:28] not to, to be using it in this way because it just, it just does the, the stuff that we hate doing the

[00:22:35] slog stuff and it does it so well, it does it probably better than we can almost. And, and I mean,

[00:22:41] and like tasks that would take me 30 to 60 minutes in some creative tasks now take more like five to

[00:22:49] 10 minutes. It's shockingly good. It's, it's, it's better. And it's better than I ever would have

[00:22:54] expected. I sort of used to roll my eyes when I'd hear people talking about, Oh, I'm using AI for

[00:22:58] this. Well, I tell you what I am, I'm sold. It's, it's really great. And to be honest, I can take

[00:23:05] that time and use it to record more podcasts. The creative aspect of podcasting is recording,

[00:23:10] not editing, not creating show notes, not this, that, that is not the creative stuff. So it's

[00:23:15] really just been a huge time saver. And frankly, I think the output has been better too. So I, I mean,

[00:23:20] it's worth a look for sure. And mind you, like I said, the one I'm using the most, the one I've

[00:23:25] paid for is Google Gemini. I I've heard amazing things from about, uh, Claude. I think chat GPT is

[00:23:31] pretty great too. Um, there's a bunch of them out there. They all end up being about 20 bucks a month

[00:23:36] for the, for the paid version. And I think I'm finding that the paid version is pretty important.

[00:23:41] So that's, that's, uh, that would be my recommendation. So the, the potential downside

[00:23:47] for this is, I mean, it's like the laziness factor bottom line. You can, you can delegate this

[00:23:56] stuff and do next to nothing. I wouldn't recommend that. I wouldn't recommend that. I have to say, I think

[00:24:01] it, I think it creates some amazing output, but I think, you know, I think you spend your time

[00:24:07] refining the output and making the, making it yours instead of just cut and paste. I mean,

[00:24:12] you could cut and paste, but I think, I think you're going to find that, that it, it's great to refine

[00:24:17] it and put your own spin on, on the amazing stuff that it's been able to generate from your terrific

[00:24:22] prompt. I really think that. So, so I don't think it becomes the only solution for writing. It

[00:24:28] becomes a tool that you can use to help generate things more quickly. I think that makes sense,

[00:24:32] but it would be very easy to get lazy on this thing. And the other thing that I worry about,

[00:24:37] and I'm not sure there's a solution for it. Um, man, it's not like kids don't know this is

[00:24:42] an option as well. So I look at it and I think, why wouldn't they do their homework like this?

[00:24:48] The problem is, is that, you know, the homework and, and the writing assignments and all this stuff

[00:24:52] that this stuff would be great with. The reality is that they're actually, they're learning it for the

[00:24:57] first time, technically, supposedly, right? If student in school, you're supposed to, so you're

[00:25:01] supposed to be showcasing what you understand, what you've synthesized, the knowledge that you've

[00:25:05] gained. And this is that, you know, you could use AI in such a way that you don't learn anything and

[00:25:10] you come out looking like a champ because it does an amazing job with this stuff. So, and I, I've heard

[00:25:15] people say, well, there's other software that can tell when it's been done by an AI. I'm like, man,

[00:25:19] I'm not convinced. I am not convinced because it is, I mean, honestly, if anything, it probably

[00:25:26] the writing sample that a kid in high school could generate with that would probably be way too good

[00:25:32] for a high school student. That would be what I would say as a teacher. I'd be worried that, I mean,

[00:25:35] like it's that good. So I don't think, I'm not sure that that software can really tell if, if there's,

[00:25:44] if a kid's been using AI, it's, it's nuts. It's, it's the output is impressive. I'm just going to

[00:25:49] say, if you haven't tried it, you should definitely try it. Do I worry about some of these things? Yes.

[00:25:54] I think that probably, you know, it's as, as with all technologies, we're gonna have to figure out

[00:25:58] the right way to use it. But boy, I think there's a lot of potential here more, more with this than

[00:26:03] maybe a lot of other things. And frankly, what's going to happen, you hear about AI reading x-rays and AI

[00:26:10] and, and I honestly, any task that's kind of, kind of tedious is probably great for AI in a lot of

[00:26:16] cases. And radiographs, I gotta say, I mean, that's a, that's right in the alley because,

[00:26:20] because they're analyzing stuff that, you know, I don't know. I, yes, I do think there's a lot of AI

[00:26:26] that's going to be coming in dentistry, but I look at it from the creative standpoint and feel like

[00:26:30] this is a real sweet spot for using AI. So if you have something you have to generate, if you have an

[00:26:36] idea, I can't even believe I'm saying this because if you have an idea for a book or article or a

[00:26:43] podcast or something like that, you ought to try playing around in the AI to see what it can help

[00:26:47] you generate. I've had, I've had a podcast in my, in my brain and my soul that I've been kicking

[00:26:53] around for a long time and I've never, cause I wanted to, I want to try and I'm not sure that I

[00:26:57] will, but I'm thinking about it. I want to try a more produced podcast. So it's more scripted a

[00:27:04] little bit more, you know, more like a, uh, this American life kind of thing where it's, it's,

[00:27:09] it's a little bit of interview, but a lot of it is produced telling a story. And I've got,

[00:27:13] I think I have that in me, but I got to tell you that the amount of work that would be necessary to

[00:27:18] do is shocking. And I'm thinking that this AI could help do some of the heavy lifting on the

[00:27:22] scripting and the, and the, some of the creative stuff on that. So I'm, I'm kind of excited to try

[00:27:27] that. So I just, I would love to hear if you guys are using AI in ways that I am not. So if you

[00:27:32] are not in the very dental Facebook group, it is time for you to join, go to the very dental

[00:27:36] Facebook group, put in, you're just going to, you're going to request an invite. It's a private

[00:27:42] group, very now Facebook group. And I asked for a password. It's going to be one of five

[00:27:47] Timmerman, McQuethy, Hornbrook, Papa Randy, or Lipscomb. Any of those five will get you in. All five

[00:27:54] of them will also get you in. Uh, I have turned people away that have not put the podcast, uh, the,

[00:28:00] um, the passwords in. So bottom line, I'm not letting people in without the password. So if

[00:28:05] you want in and you don't know the password, find out from someone, I only put the password out in

[00:28:09] the, in the podcasts. So, uh, it's, it's in the show notes too. So you can look for it there, but

[00:28:14] the bottom line is that's, that's the thing. So, uh, I think AI is not going anywhere. I think it's an

[00:28:19] amazing tool and I, I'm really glad that I'm using it. I hope you guys notice that the show notes are

[00:28:23] better. Let me know if you're noticing they're just way better and they're not, they don't feel,

[00:28:28] they're generated in a great way. I mean, they're good. Uh, they're not, you know, they're not like

[00:28:35] AI can get stuff wrong, especially if you're, you're not putting in a good prompt, but I feel like

[00:28:39] it's, it's a real sweet spot to use it in podcasting. So I'm really enjoying it. I hope

[00:28:43] you guys are enjoying it. Let me know what you think. And if you have any questions or comments,

[00:28:47] you have people you think I should interview ideas for the podcast, let me know. Uh, you can catch me in

[00:28:51] the Facebook group or whatever. I sure appreciate you guys listening to the episode

[00:28:55] in the show. And I wish you'd tell a friend, leave review, all that stuff. And we'll catch you next

[00:29:01] episode.