Very Clinical: Disgusting Teenage Mouths

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[00:00:04] Welcome to The Very Clinical Podcast. In about the time it takes to do an MO on 3, we will

[00:00:22] entertain and amaze you with tips and tricks on regular daily dentistry. Here's Kevin

[00:00:28] and Zach. Very Clinical Listeners, welcome back to another episode of The Very Clinical

[00:00:34] Podcast. I'm Zach Miners coming to you from Kansas City, Missouri with me as always

[00:00:38] with my trusty co-host, Dr. Kevin Hare Friar. Kevin, Hare is looking on point. Thank you.

[00:00:43] I combed it and washed it today. Oh, today was wash day. I didn't wash it for me.

[00:00:49] Oh, you're lying? Yeah, I don't wash it. This isn't genuine radio. This sucks, man. Thanks,

[00:00:55] Kevin. I'm just a big fat liar. Yep. Just as we promised last week, we brought back

[00:01:02] Dr. Alan Mead all the way from Michigan. Alan, what is going on? Nothing. How are

[00:01:06] you guys doing? Doing great. Above average. Kevin would be doing better if this Cleveland

[00:01:14] score was doing better. Where's our score, Kevin? We're losing 4-1 now. Still game one.

[00:01:22] In case the Indians have made it, moved on. This is a minor setback, but we won't know

[00:01:28] that till the future. But it's doubtful. This series will be well over by the time

[00:01:34] this podcast comes out. It should be on to the CS series. We'll know a lot more. Yes,

[00:01:40] it may age badly. Antiquated, yeah, exactly. We are still going to be talking clinically

[00:01:46] about kind of teen dental scenarios, but first of all, we've got our bit of the night.

[00:01:52] Kevin, what do you got for us? All right, we're going to talk about teen-based movies

[00:01:56] or coming-of-age movies and or TV shows in my case. So, Zach, what's your favorite

[00:02:01] teen movie? Well, as we were talking, I was kind of like consciously spitting out some

[00:02:09] of my favorites. I really think at the end of the day that Superbad is my favorite teen

[00:02:16] movie. Jonah Hill and Michael Cera just kill it. I really think that's one of the best

[00:02:25] versions of a teen movie anyone's come up with. Seth Rogen wrote it. He's brilliant.

[00:02:31] I just love that. So, the funny thing is about that is that is a movie about teenagers, but it came

[00:02:36] out in the early aughts, right? So, 2008, yeah. I have a hard time because I was already, I was

[00:02:42] definitely, I was a grown-up at that point. So, it's like, I mean, it was about being a teen.

[00:02:48] I get that. I get it. Yeah. Okay. So yes, I guess you're right. I didn't watch that one as

[00:02:53] a teen. I lost my time travel. Even American Pie when that came out, I was already 20. I was into

[00:03:01] my teens then. Oh yeah, American Pie was out after I got out of dental school, man. I didn't really

[00:03:06] get to... I didn't really remember any... I mean, all the teen movies when I was a teen were

[00:03:14] the crappy like John Hughes stuff. They're fine. They're not my favorite. Anyway, Alan,

[00:03:22] how about you? Do you have a favorite? All right. So, I had to think there for a second.

[00:03:26] Okay. I'm going to go with the classic underrated Teen Wolf, the original Teen Wolf.

[00:03:33] Michael J Fox. Oh, wow. It was terrible. It was a terrible movie. No, I love that.

[00:03:41] Except it was funny. It was funny and it was stupid and it was low budget

[00:03:47] and it was... I'm an 80s kid. Yeah. That was definitely a movie that came out when I was a teen

[00:03:55] and it was... Yeah, so I'm going to go with Teen Wolf, the car surfing. Remember they...

[00:04:00] Yes. Van. Car surfing and he bit right into a beer and he got to be with all the hot chicks

[00:04:08] when he was the wolf, all that stuff. Yeah. So yeah, that's it.

[00:04:11] I adored that movie and you're right. That is one that I saw. That was a movie about

[00:04:16] Teen Rangers. I think they did Teen Wolf 2. Yes. It's garbage, total garbage.

[00:04:21] I didn't see it. I didn't see it. Honestly, Teen Wolf 1 is good for what you're looking for.

[00:04:29] I don't think it got any Oscar nods. Let's just say that.

[00:04:33] Do you know about the ending credits part of Teen Wolf? Do you know about the lore of the

[00:04:37] ending credits? No. Is it like, is it Satan worship or something? No. So, okay, you know,

[00:04:43] so if you remember Teen Wolf, Michael G. Fox shoots the free throw, they win the game,

[00:04:48] he passes on the girl and hugs Boof and all that. So anyway, the credits roll...

[00:04:55] It's actually a fan of this movie, clearly. Oh yeah, huge fan. Huge fan. Huge Michael G. Fox guy,

[00:05:00] Back to the Future, all that stuff. So someone in the background, when the credits are rolling,

[00:05:06] that's up in like the stands of the movie, just pulls down their pants, hangs down

[00:05:12] right in the background. And you can... Yeah, you've been telling you go back, watch the movie.

[00:05:18] You have to look very close. I'm sure you could probably find it on YouTube a lot quicker.

[00:05:22] I'm looking right now. That's no Teen Wolf.

[00:05:26] No, just look. Yeah, just I'm telling you, it's a thing. You look for that, Kevin,

[00:05:30] tell us about your show. Well, let's say, I just want to make a comment that it's interesting

[00:05:34] like, I'm sorry, I got to stop you from the sun.co.uk.

[00:05:43] Did you ever spot the guy with his penis out in the 1985 Teen Wolf?

[00:05:49] I wasn't joking. I'm linking the article. I'm sorry. The headline is basket balls.

[00:05:57] I did not know this. This is the kind of quality content that people come to the

[00:06:06] Very Dental Podcast Network for. Teen Wolf, okay, I'm linking the... I'm going to say no more.

[00:06:12] I will just put the link in the show notes. All right, sorry, Kevin. Go ahead.

[00:06:20] So I'm going to jump forward to something I just saw over the last couple of years,

[00:06:26] and that would be Pen 15 streaming on Netflix or Hulu.

[00:06:33] The Pen 15 is two adult females playing seventh graders, seventh and eighth graders,

[00:06:41] with a cast of normal or that age people. And they just nail the teenage experience,

[00:06:50] in my opinion, from not only their perspective, but also the boys' perspectives.

[00:06:54] And it's said in the early 2000s, so the internet is sort of new.

[00:07:00] And I watched almost every episode twice.

[00:07:07] Pen 15, like PEN?

[00:07:09] Yeah, penis. Pen 15.

[00:07:13] All right, yep.

[00:07:14] And I think it's not only fascinating from the acting because after the first episode,

[00:07:19] I had to be told that those were adults because they have the awkward thing down so well.

[00:07:27] But I think what we enjoy about those movies or TV shows is that that's such an important time

[00:07:37] of our life. So we can, for some reason, you can automatically put yourself back in that place

[00:07:43] and remember what that feels like. It has such an impression on all of us.

[00:07:47] So that's why all those movies exist and that's why we love them so much.

[00:07:51] I mean, I could probably name a hundred other movies like that.

[00:07:55] Oh sure. As soon as Alan said Teen Wolf, I was like, you know, Back to the Future was about

[00:08:00] about Teen. I loved that movie. It was about him visiting his teenage dad.

[00:08:06] But to me, the movie was about time travel. So it didn't...

[00:08:08] But I would disagree. I think it is a Teen movie.

[00:08:11] It is.

[00:08:13] I had a conversation with a friend about Caddyshack this weekend.

[00:08:18] That's a Teen movie in a way. Not really. It's a class...

[00:08:24] movie about different class structure and all that sort of stuff. But the Caddies are all

[00:08:28] teenagers and they're having all these sort of teenage surrogles.

[00:08:35] All right, so Alan, have you seen the clip yet? Have you streamed this clip?

[00:08:39] The report comes back saying although it's become known on the internet as the infamous penis clip,

[00:08:46] the eagle eye among you will notice that there's no actual flesh on show.

[00:08:50] All you can really see is a pair of white pants. As YouTube commenter Carl Z said,

[00:08:55] wow people are stupid. This is clearly just a man with his fly down. So apparently some

[00:09:01] may be disappointed. But it is... There is a video of it on the link. So I'm watching it right now.

[00:09:09] Okay. All right, so obviously that was extremely riveting and we could probably keep talking about

[00:09:17] Teen movies for 20 minutes but you came for... Oh yeah, I wore that. But you probably came with the

[00:09:23] hopes of learning something about dental stuff. So here we are. We'll talk more about the

[00:09:31] Teen dental experience. Kevin, you wanted to talk about the behavioral

[00:09:35] aspects. I want to ask a question. So do you think that kids these days are worse or the same

[00:09:45] or better? I don't know that that's... In terms of being able to handle a dental

[00:09:50] procedure or... Yeah, then earlier in your career. That's a good question. I never think about

[00:09:55] that because I thought a lot about this. It's so dumb for me to say but

[00:10:03] a 14 or 15 year old that is good is the best patient you're going to see that day.

[00:10:12] But overall they're not. I almost just assume that they're going to be really tough to deal with.

[00:10:20] So I think they're probably worse. I think they're probably worse.

[00:10:24] It's probably their parents that are worse actually.

[00:10:27] I think that they... I think their dental situation I think is declining because of all the red bull

[00:10:34] and the sour candies. And the hula hoops. And the tiktoks.

[00:10:42] I honestly think as long as they can listen to their music or zone out on YouTube or

[00:10:47] something like that, I don't have as much problems with working with them to do the

[00:10:54] dentistry. I don't think they're worse than before. I don't know. What's your take Kevin?

[00:10:58] I don't think they're worse. I think that early on in my career that was...

[00:11:04] I knew that that was going to be a difficult appointment and it's still a difficult appointment.

[00:11:09] I don't think they're any worse. I think that... I do think because you just mentioned it,

[00:11:14] they do tend to zone out a lot more. It's almost impossible to talk to them

[00:11:20] because they're on their phone and they're not listening to me. Right.

[00:11:23] But so that didn't exist in 1989.

[00:11:26] They're okay. So you're even...

[00:11:28] 1999.

[00:11:29] It's more likely for you when you talk to a kid or a teen, particularly a teenager,

[00:11:34] when you say hello, how are you? That they say nothing now.

[00:11:38] Correct. Yes.

[00:11:38] Like they... it's almost like they don't understand the... how conversation works.

[00:11:46] I mean, even if they're really nervous or whatever, but you acknowledge someone when you

[00:11:51] say something and I get more just nothing from the teenage group now than I ever have. And that,

[00:11:57] I will say, not only does it... is very awkward, it almost enrages me. It's like,

[00:12:01] have you not been socialized at all? It drives me a little bit crazy.

[00:12:06] I don't run into it all the time, but I definitely have seen that more in a teenager

[00:12:10] nowadays. I guess maybe I'm just that grandpa Simpson on his porch.

[00:12:17] Yeah, but you know what? On some level, it's almost... it makes it easier for me. It's like,

[00:12:21] okay, cool. So we're not going to talk. Let's just get you numb. And that's one of the...

[00:12:27] I don't usually have conversations with my assistant in front of patients.

[00:12:30] I'm not that kind of dentist. I know a lot of people do. But during a teen

[00:12:33] operative appointment, that's when I'll chat it up with my assistant talking about

[00:12:38] random crap. Because like... Yeah, I tend to...

[00:12:40] They're not listening and they don't care. I tend to be more jokey with the kids,

[00:12:44] like say really random stuff, just try to make everyone laugh.

[00:12:47] I'd probably talk about that scene in Teen Wolf actually with them. That's what I was doing.

[00:12:53] Alan's gotten canceled and has a restraining order now. He's not allowed within 500 yards

[00:12:58] of his school. It's just to fly open. It's just to fly open.

[00:13:01] But it's... the teenage boys and teenage girls, that middle like 13 to 17 range, they're different.

[00:13:11] Yeah. That's for sure. And there's so many of them that you ask them, like, well, what are you doing

[00:13:18] in school? You do any activities or anything like that? So many of them are like nothing. Or

[00:13:23] maybe they do do something but they're afraid it's not gonna... They don't want to talk about

[00:13:28] just say nothing. They don't do anything. That's ultra awkward for me. I don't know why...

[00:13:34] I just don't remember being like that as a teenager but it seems that's why.

[00:13:39] You were that one? Thanks a lot, Kevin. You're probably miserable for your next...

[00:13:43] It wasn't like me trying to be a jerk. I just... It's just shy.

[00:13:48] Yeah. But do most of your teen patients... Do they get some nitrous when they're getting

[00:14:00] their work done? Do you nitrous them up almost like you do with young kids or do

[00:14:05] you taper them off of it by then? What are you doing? You're much in the sedation department

[00:14:10] with them. I don't have nitrous in my office so none of that. Well, that answers that question.

[00:14:14] I will say that no. I will say that if I did, that'd be interesting. I'd be interested to know

[00:14:20] if that would be helpful but I'll bet it would be for some kids. Kevin, how about you?

[00:14:24] I don't have nitrous either and our oral sedation protocol is not for teens. So

[00:14:30] they just have to sit there and take it. So for those of you that don't have that

[00:14:37] and you've got a teen that's uncooperative, I mean you can't refer them back to the

[00:14:42] peter donuts because they probably are... They've aged out there. What are you doing with these kids?

[00:14:48] It's sometimes a tough appointment. Yeah, yeah. That's the way it is.

[00:14:54] I think the nitrous... The nitrous is the only reason I do any pito

[00:14:58] at all if I didn't... If I didn't have nitrous, if I couldn't have nitrous or didn't have it in

[00:15:02] every room, I would 100%... I like Don's line. She says one of us is having nitrous for this

[00:15:09] appointment. That's Don's. It's just about because it's like working on those stressful kids is very

[00:15:15] stressful. So I feel like it makes a ton of sense for pito and it could there for teens.

[00:15:22] The teens, it just depends on the teen. If the teen is good to go and not nervous about it,

[00:15:29] then we're just going to numb them. And if they are, I'm going back to the nitrous and

[00:15:34] that gets me through a lot of those appointments. I have to tell you,

[00:15:37] I would choose... If you're choosing any, I would choose the 12 to 15-year-old girl

[00:15:44] who's over an older girl. The guys are all just... The guys don't take good care at all,

[00:15:52] but you can get the gregarious ahead of their... I don't know. I seem to be able to work on

[00:16:01] that middle-range teen girl without too much trouble. The guys always get under my skin.

[00:16:07] I feel like who do you think is least likely to take good care of their teeth? Who is the

[00:16:13] teenager that doesn't take good care of their teeth? Are they all that way? Are boys worse than girls?

[00:16:19] Are there... No. It's a 13-year-old boy that's probably into emo or something like that.

[00:16:26] Or video games or whatever, but they just don't take the time.

[00:16:29] Yeah. They just don't take the time. They really don't.

[00:16:32] I have a 12-year-old and a 15-year-old boy, and we have to sit on them to get them to brush

[00:16:39] their teeth. It's a... Sure. They don't think anything about diet. They don't think about sugar.

[00:16:45] They don't think about what they're taking in and what it could be doing to their teeth at all.

[00:16:50] As a dentist, their dad, and I bug them constantly, it doesn't cross their mind. It never does.

[00:16:55] So I will say we have electric toothbrushes for both of them. My youngest one has the

[00:17:01] very fancy Oral Bisonic thing. He loves it because he's in Invisalign. I wouldn't think of putting

[00:17:07] brackets on that kid because he wouldn't be able to take care of his teeth.

[00:17:11] Kevin, you wanted to speak to maybe some of the more behavioral

[00:17:17] things. Do we miss on anything that you wanted to hit on at all?

[00:17:20] No. I think that was pretty much what I wanted to talk about. Yeah.

[00:17:24] Okay. I think we hit it.

[00:17:25] So let me ask you this. When it comes to... We talk about all the energy drinks and

[00:17:34] Gatorades and stuff like that, that maybe people weren't drinking as much of 20 years ago.

[00:17:41] Are you changing any of your protocols, materials, or anything like that as something

[00:17:47] to withstand the abuse that our work's going to have to go through because of that?

[00:17:55] Because it almost seems insurmountable to beat the diet sometimes on some people.

[00:18:04] It doesn't change my materials, but I certainly have had some conversations

[00:18:09] and particularly with the quote Superstar Teenage High School Athlete

[00:18:22] and their parents, you don't need to drink that Gatorade. You can drink water. It's not really

[00:18:27] doing it that much for you. Killing your teeth. And they look at me like,

[00:18:33] like the marketing's worked really well on them. Yeah, it has. The marketing's worked

[00:18:37] really well. I agree. What is it in Indieocracy? Rondo. It has electrolytes.

[00:18:46] Water? Why would you drink water? That's from a toilet? Gross.

[00:18:50] I just watched that movie. I just watched it.

[00:18:53] Fantastic movie. So I watched the patient over that.

[00:18:59] I almost lost the patient over it. This guy was like a competitive track person.

[00:19:03] Yeah. You mean they died?

[00:19:04] Gatorade. No, they just went somewhere else.

[00:19:08] So you're saying that your drinks will kill you?

[00:19:14] Yeah. I remember. You don't need that.

[00:19:18] I said, you don't need these. They're killing your teeth and there's like,

[00:19:23] he's a performance athlete. Same conversation.

[00:19:27] And the kid now, I still see him 15 years later and the acid erosion.

[00:19:36] This kid is going to need an FMR before he's 50.

[00:19:39] He has the same parents that think fluoride is poison too. That's the other thing.

[00:19:44] Probably. There is a kid that graduated but he was like the star of the football team

[00:19:51] close by here and played both ways. And I think he plays for a small college right now.

[00:19:59] And I mean, I couldn't keep up with the decay.

[00:20:04] And it was all like when I had this Gatorade talk with him and his mom,

[00:20:08] they just looked at me like I was nuts.

[00:20:11] I have, I can think of one football player that, oh man, you know,

[00:20:15] if I saw him on the schedule, I knew it was going to be, it was going to be a rotten day

[00:20:19] because not only was he, did he think I was just full of it? Like he was the kid who wouldn't even try

[00:20:26] to help. He wouldn't try to stay open. He wouldn't, and he was just too cool. You know,

[00:20:29] it's just who, and he did, he had, I was, you would chase that chalky stuff till the end of

[00:20:34] time with this kid. And, and he never owned it. And like you say, you basically,

[00:20:40] you're bugging him about doing fluoride rinses and stuff. There is no amount of fluoride

[00:20:44] rinses or brushing or anything. It's going to keep up with what this kid thinks he needs for his

[00:20:49] sports. It's a, it is, it's an interesting thing. Oh man. And I, everything we've talked about,

[00:20:57] this kid is everything about it. Like you couldn't, I couldn't isolate this kid. I tried every kind

[00:21:02] of isolation there was and he wasn't going to tolerate anything. He was a bit, he was a giant

[00:21:05] wuss. He, he, uh, he had a tongue thrust. That was awesome. So he's, he's, uh, that's

[00:21:11] great. Not interested in any kind of orthodontic help ring like that, but he had a huge tongue

[00:21:14] thrust and, and he wouldn't open to save his life. And he had a tongue the size it was like

[00:21:19] everything you can think of. And every time he, and every time I saw him, you'd see him on recall

[00:21:25] and you're like, okay, I see this stuff. I can't possibly keep up with him. He doesn't want to

[00:21:29] come back and have anything done. And I honest to God, don't want to work on him. There

[00:21:32] was like, it was a kind of a no win. And I think that happens, that can happen to a lot of

[00:21:37] these. He, like when we kind of decided we were going to talk about working on teenagers,

[00:21:42] this kid came out of mind. This kid, and you know, he's interestingly, he's like 25 or 26 now.

[00:21:48] He's way better to deal with now. He did, he grew out of it. So it came around.

[00:21:53] We mature. Yeah, I can shoot. I just, I literally just, as I, another woman I finished

[00:21:58] a root canal on today. Um, but she was just a, oh, she'd come in with her mom and she just

[00:22:04] like sort of sneering and angry all the time. She's, you know, she's 28 now or whatever. She's

[00:22:09] great. She's great. She's responsible. She thinks, so it's not hopeless. I guess that's the only,

[00:22:15] we haven't had a lot of nice things to say about the teenagers last couple, but,

[00:22:19] but they can kind of grow out of it actually. And I have to say that my favorite patient

[00:22:24] population is probably the mid 20 year old who is out on their own for their first time and

[00:22:30] gets to pick their own dentist. I'm like, that's so, so these teenagers could eventually grow into

[00:22:35] that. I should say that, but I'll show you. You're right that we, I hate to, to, and I'm sure there

[00:22:40] are no teenage listeners of this podcast, but um, I hate to bag on them too much because you're

[00:22:44] right though, because I mean in the overall scheme of things, I have probably more teens

[00:22:51] that have no cavities than have like a massive decay, but the ones that are bad

[00:23:00] drive you nuts. They make you look, but they make your dentistry look bad.

[00:23:03] Yeah. You have to have all kinds of bad conversations with the parents about like this,

[00:23:08] they're not doing this or not doing that. It's going to be more money. Yep. It's going to be

[00:23:12] more and more money. You know, every recall you're seeing a bag for, you know, so, so that

[00:23:18] now I'm going to answer my own question. I'm going to sound kind of broken recordy, but

[00:23:22] you know, on those as an attempt to, to offset all the acids and sugars and all this,

[00:23:29] I mean, I'm really slinging a lot of glass on them around these kids and I'm trying to

[00:23:34] for a composite. That's what I will try to like skew more towards one of those like Compromere

[00:23:40] type composites like the like a show foods, butaphyl or uh, you know, the old direct, I don't use

[00:23:46] direct because the show food ones, the modern version of that, but you know, I don't,

[00:23:50] I don't know if I believe that they release fluoride, but anecdotally those

[00:23:54] composites are holding up a little better. So I, you know, I don't know. I'm trying to do

[00:23:58] a lot of things. Have you had any luck with a teenager in actual behavior modification by like,

[00:24:04] are there any, I mean, I tell every teenager that they need to get an electric toothbrush,

[00:24:10] even if it's just one of the $7 ones because the or, or Prevenant, you try, you try getting

[00:24:15] them on like a million. I did too. I tell everyone to get act fluoride rinse and

[00:24:22] same year that too. Yeah, I'll put it on there.

[00:24:26] We, I'm getting, go ahead. I'm sorry. No, we have coupons in the office and

[00:24:33] yeah, I can speak sort of excitedly about it. Like they've got lots of different flavors and

[00:24:37] it's really easy to use and like, like I do and I, but I have to tell you, I, I say that to

[00:24:42] almost everyone on recall. They're even close to hygiene or our carry's risk. I'm big on that,

[00:24:47] you know, and I, for adults, I'll do the shower trays with more of a, like a Prevenant gel that

[00:24:53] they wear in the shower. There's no way I'm going to get a teenager to comply with that. I mean,

[00:24:57] they can't even brush their teeth for crying out loud. The answer to your question is like,

[00:25:01] the number of times I think I've actually like made an impact and like turned someone around

[00:25:06] like actually as a teenager and they're like, it's, it's, it's really low. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:12] It's really low. You're much more likely to reach them as a 20 something than a teenager.

[00:25:17] Sure. Yeah. They're, they're, I think they were listening more. Yeah.

[00:25:20] Teen decay is like right behind, I mean, geriatric, I think is the worst of the worst in terms of like

[00:25:26] that's its own episode. But I think the teen stuff second and in a lot of ways I hate it more

[00:25:34] because it's like, I know that work has to last extra time and it's tough. It's tough.

[00:25:42] I agree. It is tough. Have you guys had, if you, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I will say that

[00:25:49] something that was kind of, that's kind of cool in the sort of came on the scene

[00:25:54] within my career is I like fluoride varnish. I'm a fan of fluoride varnish versus a

[00:26:00] stupid trade or whatever like that. I just, I feel like fluoride varnish is a much easier

[00:26:04] sell for everyone, but in particular teens. It's, and that's super easy to use and super

[00:26:11] effective. And that's, I'm kind of glad they have that product. I honestly, you could almost,

[00:26:16] you wish that there was a fluoride varnish that parents could apply or something like that,

[00:26:20] but that's all other story. I push a lot of the 5,000 part per million toothpaste though.

[00:26:24] I really do. I really try to get a lot of that. I know Kevin said you gave up on it.

[00:26:28] Is there a reason why you gave up on it? You just quit. You don't want to talk about

[00:26:31] anymore. We either had to buy it or write a prescription and people just weren't getting it.

[00:26:36] They wouldn't get the prescription. Right. And I don't want to sell it.

[00:26:40] I don't want to sell it. And I just, it's like,

[00:26:45] this is going to sound really bad, but if you can go ahead and buy your Gatorade and Red Bull

[00:26:50] and all that stuff and you can't go and buy act fluoride rinse then that's your problem.

[00:26:56] It's on you. Yeah. Sure. Okay. So listeners, if you want to talk more about

[00:27:05] teen-based dentistry, check out the very clinical Facebook page or even Alan's group,

[00:27:10] the very dental Facebook page. There you go. There's lots of teens down there.

[00:27:16] Wait, what? What did you say?

[00:27:20] Yeah. You know, check out the Facebook page, have some discussions. What do we get wrong here?

[00:27:27] Yeah. I'm sure that there's probably people that are listening,

[00:27:32] rolling their eyes at everything we say. They're probably hygienists to be honest and

[00:27:35] I'm curious to hear their... I don't think they listen to the show.

[00:27:42] I'd be curious though. I'd love to hear what everyone else has to say because I...

[00:27:45] The hygienists don't like dealing with these teens either.

[00:27:47] I avoid working on teens whenever possible. I actually tell my patients not to have teens.

[00:27:55] Skip from kids to adults. Just skip the teens thing. I tell them to do that.

[00:27:59] Go on. Yep, exactly. Boarding school. There you go. Very good. Hey, Alan,

[00:28:03] thanks for joining us and again, double congrats on that $5 million. Thank you.

[00:28:07] Thank you. Hopefully it's up to $6 million by the time this episode comes out or

[00:28:11] 5.1 or something like that. Yeah, hey, you never know.

[00:28:14] Never know. Thanks, Alan. Thanks, Kevin. Thank you.

[00:28:18] And we will catch you guys next time. See ya.

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