Very Clinical: Take The Time Off Now with Dr. Melissa Zettler

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[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Very Clinical Podcast. In about the time it takes to do an M.O. on three, we will entertain and amaze you with tips and tricks on regular daily dentistry.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Here's Kevin and Zach.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_03]: What is up, Very Clinical listeners? And welcome back to yet another episode of the podcast.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_03]: This is Zach Miners coming to you from Kansas City, Missouri. With me, as always, my trusty co-host, Dr. Kevin Hare Fryer.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Kevin, how are the wins in Cleveland?

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: The wins or the wins?

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: The INS or INS?

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It's windy.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever you want me to, whatever you heard.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It's windy here a lot.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And last I checked, our Indians slash guardians were beating the Royals two to one.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But by the time this comes out, it will already be late September.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll be in the playoffs almost.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, probably.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully the pesky twins will not have caught either of us and the Indian slash guardians will be going into the playoffs.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_04]: There we go.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_03]: As promised, Dr. Melissa Zettler is returning all the way from Minnesota.

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Melissa, what's happening this evening?

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Not much.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Hanging out with two awesome guys.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Who are they?

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Melissa, I've been watching your TV in the background the whole time.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_03]: What are you watching back there?

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_03]: What in the world is that show?

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Where?

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Behind you.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even know my TV was on.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like an alien brain dissection.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It was really weird.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I was like, I've been like, this has been the background.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, what the hell is she?

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Does she watch in the evening since I was like, everyone's into their own thing, I guess, but it was just really strange.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It's paramount and I'm pretty sure it's an alien dissection.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, perfect.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_03]: This makes for great radio.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be asking what's on your TV.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, here we are.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: With my blue on.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Here we go.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That should be the bit.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_04]: When's the last time you watched an alien dissection?

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You can incorporate it into your practice.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Monday morning.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_03]: We, we talked about a recap of, of some of summer travels last time.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And Melissa wanted to know for our bit this evening, if we had any upcoming fall winter travels here.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll let, since Melissa thought of it, you get to go first.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, once lake season is done, what's your, what's your fall schedule looking like?

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So my kids are both in college.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So we are trying to do like a fun trip every fall.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And this September, we're going to the Galapagos Islands.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Really?

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: That's cool.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: How long are you going to be there?

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, only, um, the whole trip will be 10 days.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So not only 10 days.

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: That's, I mean, that's perfect.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Where do you fly into?

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Kevin.

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's the first time I ever did that in my whole career.

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the other part of that.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Where do you, where do you fly to, to go to the Galapagos?

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: How does that, how does that travel pattern work?

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So we're fine.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: We have to Atlanta, Atlanta to Quito, Ecuador, and then Quito, Ecuador to Baltra.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we take a little puddle jumper plane to the island that we're getting on the boat from.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Super cool.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping so.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to swim with penguins.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna see a blue footed boobie.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be great.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Anytime you can see boobies, I'm all for that.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's a good thing.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good thing indeed.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Boobies or not?

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Kevin, what, do you have anything?

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I feel like most of it should have gone last.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I just blew that out.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's, I was gonna say, I'm a, I'm, I just got blown away.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, what, you got anything?

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_04]: For fall.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So, um, uh, friend of the show and my son, Charlie, uh, bought a house two days ago.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, in Salt Lake?

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_04]: In Salt, well, Draper, which is a suburb of Salt Lake.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So, um,

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a big deal.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It is a big deal.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: It's been, there's been a lot of back and forth and, you know, like when your kids are

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_04]: little, Zach, you help them with certain problems.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And then when your kids are in college, Melissa, you help them with a little different.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you start getting questions about houses and mortgages, all that sort of stuff.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Insurance.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So that's an inspections and all that sort of stuff.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, um, once they move in, we're gonna hop out there and check out the new house

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and see what's, what's cracking there.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That sounds awesome.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_04]: That's cool.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't normally do any fall travel cause the kids are in school, but they actually

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_03]: have a, um, um, they have a fall break in October.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That's just long enough that we're going to take a quick trip out to Colorado Springs

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and do like garden of the gods and Pike's peak and that kind of stuff.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's a short, short, quick hitter from, from Kansas city.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But we, we drive through all these places in Colorado on the way to skiing.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, we don't ever stop at any of them cause we're, we want to ski.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So we're gonna do some of those things.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Melissa, are you a skier?

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Downhill.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, great.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So, um, you know, those are coming up.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Those are in the winter, winter, winter.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: This was fall.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: She's got slopes in her, in, in her area though.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_03]: She's got decent, Minnesota's got decent slopes.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I grew, well, my dad was military.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So we skied like depending on where we lived, if there was mountains and stuff, but I'd never

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: skied anything other than a mountain till I came up here to go to St. Olaf college.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And we went to this little hill called Welch, um, Welch area.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, I, it was kind of like, what?

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I, uh, how many times can you go up and down in 10 minutes?

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Where's your go-to ski place now?

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't skied for a couple of years.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, because one of my daughters has decided she doesn't like to do that anymore, but we

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: love going to big sky.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_03]: My sister likes to go there.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: She loves the fly in there.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's cool.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a nice place.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It is huge.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: We really liked it.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: We've always had a really good time there.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It's easy to get to.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not quite as crowded.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Very good.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_03]: That's that'll be, that's good stuff.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Your kids there in the winter, Zach.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so what we did was we'd ski for a couple of days and then we went to Yellowstone in

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: the winter.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, in the winter.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Super fun.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think about that.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: No crowd.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I, it's Denver's or I mean, you know, Summit County is close enough that I can, I can drive

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_03]: that pretty easily.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_03]: That's, it's tough to pass that up.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I, big sky does seem cool as well.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I've got my own gear.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I like to put it in the truck and just drive.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll, I'll get to big sky one day, but not anytime soon.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's worth it.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But all right.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So third series, Melissa, we're going to, we're going to dig deep into your life here

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_03]: and decide whether you've changed your mind or anything just in life in general over the

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: practicing course of your career here.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Life in general.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So some personal, some practice.

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So personally, um, when I first started out, I felt like we really couldn't take vacation

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and that I couldn't take time off that I needed to like always be on call.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I had to like call people back right away and, um, be so accessible and you don't, I

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00]: mean, I wish that we had, um, found a way to maybe do a little bit more earlier on in

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: our lives.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_00]: We're trying hard to make for up for it all now, but, um, yeah, I just really felt like

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: we couldn't do it.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And then when we had our children, um, we didn't have like a real easy path to parenthood.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I, I, I regret not doing more time off when they were younger, but again,

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I felt like I really couldn't.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, my husband chose to work part time when we had our two kids.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So we had two kids within six months of each other.

[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so it was a little crazy making for a little while there.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, I mean, I wasn't like overworked by any means, but I kind of wish I would have

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: taken off more time than I did.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't really take vacations.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just the Friday off.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So I would say, make the time, take it off, go on the field trips.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be fine.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_03]: That that's, that's a tough one to learn.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's, you know what, when I did, we did this series on myself.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That was something that, uh, that I had to tell myself to do that.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, my kids were only going to be younger once and only around for so many

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: years.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And if I didn't get after it and do this stuff that I was going to regret it down the road.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So I, I, that's something I hope I figured out in time that we're having a, we're having

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_03]: a pretty good time now, but yes, that's a tough one to do.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So right.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We're about like, I'm going to say third grade.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That's when it finally clicked.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what?

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_00]: We need to start like doing more stuff.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, yeah, I mean, just as you know, creates like really nice memories and.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, uh, brings your family together in ways like when you don't have the polls of sports

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and friends and everybody else, it's just like you guys in this place.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's different than when you're home.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And you have their attention in a different way.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's exactly the way I feel about it.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, it sounds like you and I do a lot of the same thing.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I, the boating thing is a very awesome family together.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's an activity.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it did everyone's, everyone's confined on that boat.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's, that's it.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And there's no screens and there's no nothing.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're just having a good time and the ski trips are the same way.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So that, though, that combo, that one, two punch is like, I mean, you really get to interact

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_03]: with your kids in a, in a cool way, doing some of those like physical sports and activities.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: There have been, I know Kevin thinks that many, many memories made on the ski lift.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Inside jokes.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Talking about life there.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a joke between Charlie and I that comes up every single time where we've gone

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: skiing and it's something is so stupid, but it makes us laugh still.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah, all, all of those definitely were, uh, worthwhile.

[00:11:14] Yeah.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But it's definitely hard when you're starting out and like money's tight and you've got all

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_00]: the daycare and the whatever loans that you have for practice and personal.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, you know, a week away is a week without production.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Sure.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's hard to, to change that mindset.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: At least it was for me because I felt a lot of pressure to, um, produce and to make a

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_00]: certain amount a month.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And I am the breadwinner in my house and it, it, it felt really weighty.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I get it.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: In hindsight, you know, we probably could have done with less and taken more time away,

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: but I mean, nobody's like, everybody's fine.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's sure.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't have to be as stressful as it was.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I also think the, at least this, the way I felt was that you were in this mindset

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_03]: of if I'm gone a day, someone's going to leave my practice and go somewhere else.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're going to have an emergency and they're going to go somewhere else.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Or they're going to be mad or they're going to quit or something's going to happen, you

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_03]: know?

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And I still battle with that now.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like our trip that we're taking to the Galapagos, one of my sisters is like, well, I don't want

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: a week off just cause you're getting a week off.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm just fine.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Then come in and work, find something to do where before I would have been like, oh my gosh,

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: no, I can't have everybody have a week off.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want it.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to come in and work.

[00:12:46] Yeah.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.

[00:12:49] Yeah.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I absolutely get that.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you have a second one, Melissa?

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so, and then the other thing, um, I thought about a lot is you read a lot on Facebook

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_00]: about these team gifts and stuff.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And it makes me crazy.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Kevin.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that anybody has ever stayed because you gave them, um, a thousand dollars.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm hmm.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I had a year where I was, did really well and I gave divided amongst my team.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think it was 10% of my profit a lot.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of money.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like it was really generous and they were mildly grateful.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the,

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Mildly grateful.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a great band name.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Number one.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And number two, it really describes what happened.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So it was, and then, so the next year I had a good year, but not as good.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So I said, I'm still going to give you this, but this time, instead of covering the taxes

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: for you, you're going to cover the taxes.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of money.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: All they had to do.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Now they're mildly ungrateful.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It was awful.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So at that point I'm like, never again.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm, I try to be generous and I try to give meaningful things and things that say,

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: thank you.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But when I read this, you should give him a thousand dollars a year.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what?

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, be generous and grateful, but I mean, what job you go to where like, they give you

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_00]: a $10,000 bonus, you know, as an hourly employee, not, I'm not talking like you're,

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, an executive or something who, so I try to do nice things, but I would say,

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_00]: just no.

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But don't.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Just don't.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Be generous and be reasonable.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Just don't.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're not like, yeah.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And it is your money.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_00]: People forget that everything that you hand out is your, it is your money that you could

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_00]: have put into a piece of equipment or a 401k or what really whatever you wanted.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that was off topic.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_03]: That's no, absolutely.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00]: On, on topic, Kevin, uh, you're, did you guys do something completely different with

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: that?

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I like the, like, no, I, I agree with you.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm off of all that, that, that stuff.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think, I think Kevin's got a lot of, we're, uh, bonusy type systems, but we've

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_04]: got several bonus systems going and we're known to be fairly generous.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: A bonus system is an earned thing.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: A bonus system is.

[00:15:41] Yeah.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We're fairly generous at Christmas time.

[00:15:45] Mm-hmm.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And, uh, I've been known to, you know, buy lunch or.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, right.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_04]: That sort of stuff.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_04]: We do that actually a lot.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_04]: But the interesting thing is my sister works with us now.

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_04]: She used to be a nurse.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, she was the head of the oncology, um, department at, at, uh, Cleveland Clinic.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, you're like, this would never happen.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: You know?

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_04]: You're too generous.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You're like, these people don't, I think her exact words are, they don't know how good

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_04]: they have it.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, I, I don't know.

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what the right balance is, but.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Um.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So I love bonuses cause they're earned and of course like lunch and things like that.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know for me, but over the top haven't worked.

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Over the top does not, it doesn't really change anything, especially for the, the mildly grateful.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Although I do have one team member that when they get their Christmas bonus every year

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: has tears in their eyes and is extreme.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Look, she's, uh, a remarkable human being all the way around.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So I would give her all everyone's Christmas bonus if I could.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, so, you know, there, there, she's an, she's an exception.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you know, it's, it's, uh, amazing how much difference, you know, going from mildly

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: grateful to extremely grateful can be for the person on the other end of it.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the giver, you know, I mean, it just, uh, it's, I understand that a hundred

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_03]: percent Melissa.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Melissa, thank you for taking time out of your busy, busy life and busy schedule to,

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: to yap with us for the last couple of weeks here.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_03]: We appreciate that.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_04]: She's been talking to us for weeks, for three weeks straight.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Three weeks straight.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Can you believe it?

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a long time.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone in her household has been neglected.

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, if you haven't joined the very clinical Facebook page, Melissa's on there.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen, we've seen her posts.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: She's there.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Some more cases, Melissa.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I can do that.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: More composite veneers.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Those are beautiful.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So I just photographed one today.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get tomorrow.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe soon.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Kevin, any final thoughts?

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I, you know, this has been, uh, a lot of fun doing this series.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope the audience has loved it.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to keep going.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, we've got a couple more people lined up and you know, maybe this is all we'll ever

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: do.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Who knows?

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, maybe.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Melissa.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And we, and, uh, thank you guys for listening and we will see you next Tuesday.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_04]: See ya.